WHEN TURKEYS VOTE FOR CHRISTMAS
It seems to me that there have been many times when turkeys have voted for Christmas. When Finnish folk voted in this latest right wing government for example. When the UK voted in the Blairite regime for another example.
Perhaps there are more selective and tight examples flying around and about in this circle of rogues.
Like to hear some I would.
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23 comments:
Our UK problem is that, because of our unfair electoral system, it's very difficult to vote governments, or individual MPs, in except in exceptional circumstances like 1945. The 1997 vote was against the tainted Tories, rather than for the somewhat unknown quantity of Blairism. NuLabour was already a master of spin, and we got sold a pup.
I fear the same may happen again next time, as so many are itching to get rid of the bossy Brownites, regardless of what may follow.
[Sorry to be serious here for once, Zola. I'll don my Leaping Nuns Mother Superior outfit next time, promise!]
I may have told you this before, but my pet theory is that Thatcher was a Communist mole planted to derail the Tory party, and Blair was a capitalist mole planted to subvert the Labour Party....
I see that Blair is going to Yale to "teach" about God and Mammon. I'm sure that both will be flattered.
well Anticant : by clear implication, as always with you, it looks like the only time when the turkeys have not voted for Christmas was in 1945.
Damn it you might have a good point there methinks.
One halfa knicker-waving point for the ever intrepid Anticant.
Zola you are a always a kind of middle-class nitwit pretending to be for the workers.
Let me remind you then the working class rarely have or had turkey for Christmas.
So where is your joke?
I think the only sensible thing to do, in prevailing circumstances, is to vote for the best candidate, regardless of party. Fortunately we have no problem here next time, as our young LibDem lady MP is the best constituency representative I've ever known, and not only sends lengthy personal replies when we write to her, but badgers ministers for us and sends follow-ups.
If you want to see a boring, nondescript collection of mediocre people, just watch PM's question time on TV!
Strange that Anticant I have been reading more of the Independent newspaper recently ( before I found it .... well .... just found it ) and when I contrast and compare with the likes of Torygraph and all that I do get some kind of perspective.
But Anticant, the ever anarchist in sheeps clothing, I cannot see the power needed here. Independent candidates are just a safety valve. make us feel good but.........
Something more is needed methinks.
But remember I do know me Trotsky I do and therefore feel the evil of power politics and parties.
As for the polite leftie : get stuffed. Can you get the joke there?
There's a article in today's 'Indy' which I've just emailed to you. An invitation to get drunk!
Anticant wasn't born yesterday, and his political philosophy is his own. I am beginning to wonder why we need political parties at all? They all are, or become, corrupt when they get their hands on a bit of power. Furedi is spot-on in his "Politics of Fear" when he lambasts the 'dependency culture' which today's politicians, media, and social busybodies are creating. I think you would enjoy it, Zola. His subtitle is 'Beyond Left and Right' - which is where all of us who are concerned with freedom, sanity, justice, and genuine progress need to move.
Have a look at my Arena post 'Soft Centre' [5 December].
Half way in agareement Antiriskycant. That Furedi ( I have lectured on the same platform some 10 years ago and he was rather conservative for my tastes and never entertaining ) goes a small way to understanding and changing this all through praxis.
But in the end he has little to offer and sunbathes in the lamps of the media day.
Again - what is to be done is one big question !
All we can do is as much as we are each able to as individuals, and keep on saying what we think - as long as we're allowed to!
I'm an "anarchist but", btw, the "but" being because I don't believe that, left free to choose, everyone would freely drive on the same side of the road and there would be even more traffic accidents.
But I firmly believe that the purpose of government should be to maximise freedom of choice with the minimum regulation necessary to ensure that choice is exercised responsibly and not to the detriment of others.
Trouble is, that's what all the politicians say, but it isn't what they do.
Now now me dear Antipolly you are sounding like maggie the milk snatcher.
Oh no we need something MUCH more than that.
We need social structures of action.
We need that society so readily ignored by the right wing and left wing INDIVIDUALS ( who were born by their own hands ???)
We need collective participation and collectives.
Ah ha now we begin me old.
Zola, you are sounding more like Burke than I am! I never said that there is "no such thing as society". But society is composed of individuals, and I entirely agree with you that they need to get together in many different constructive, collective ways.
For Anticant's latest bang-up-to-the-minute political pronouncement, kindly proceed to the Burrow.
Hope you are not being naughty again.
OK I give it a try.
BTW just like the old times is it not.
Like it I do.
Thought you would like this Zola.
Just how long has it been - being away from the real struggles?
Historian said : see above on last post so you get the context.
Anyway let me say this, if I can.
The real stuggles are not at the dweath bed.
The real stuggles are whern the social is significant.
The primary struggle is to stick around so we can be socially significant when the occasion offers.
Some years ago newt-fancier Ken wrote a book called "If voting changed anything they'd abolish it". Now, he's asking everyone to vote for him. I suppose he's worried the voters might change something....
Cocoa trees voting for Mothers Day? Do I win?
Scotland voting for Union?
Well grobble grobble : you may win a coconut if you visit my fairground, pay yer money and take a chance with me.
Merky me old : More of those Highland clearances ate needed methinks and there seems to be EU funding for this project.
Anticant : You show a turn towards fate here and living, as I do, in Northern Finland I am happy with that. The "occasion" will come along.
Also an occasion is always significant - is it not?
The big question is when have turkeys refused to vote for Christmas and then gone about getting things done in other ways.
That is the real question Zola.
"Three cheers for horsechestnut roasts, grobble grobble. We must try to get things done differently. Cos my mum doesn't love going to Iceland."
That was a party political broadcast from the You Don't Need Turkeys to Party Party (aka the Political Turkeys).
"Three cheers for horsechestnut roasts, grobble grobble. We must try to get things done differently. Cos my mum doesn't love going to Iceland."
That was a party political broadcast from the You Don't Need Turkeys to Party Party (aka the Political Turkeys).
Can you repeat that?
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