Monday, September 08, 2008

IT IS NOW OBVIOUS WHEN BEFORE iT WAS JUST A MOVEMENT

The NU-Guardian is fucked. It runs scared and even their American Dream withers.

Nu-Labor is fucked. It crawls scared like a rat caught out and thrown to the water.

What then is left?

The only thing that is possible today is totally different groups gathering under a kind of common banner. This means a Manchester Guardian mixing and picking bits and pieces with a host of golden blogs that will say no to the killing fields.

This means an alternative political anti-party that really matters.

10 comments:

Merkin said...

It has been interesting to see the Graun, these last few weeks.
They have really been found out - and are getting hammered every time they 'trot' out another Think Tank clone.

I have been deleted a few times but, in general, have moderated myself to the extent of getting a lot of agreement.

I have noticed a worrying new trend though.
Some of the deletions have taken place a few days after the original date of posting - a real attempt at changing history.

No matter.
On the plus side it has been nice to see the re-emergence of PapaKarl/AgitPapa under his new name.
He always seems to get good info from somewhere and it always checks out.
(He does have a pathological hatred of Armenia and Iran but generally is someone I could agree with)

We are getting closer to ASBOs for bloggers and other sorts of regulation - eventually we will not be able to complain about it on fora such as this.

So, use it or lose it.

anticant said...

As you know, I have long refused to post comments on CiF because it is a travesty of free speech with its PC censorship of views which the editors dislike. The make the very name of the site a mockery.

As a Manchester-born man who revered the old principled 'Guardian' of C.P.Scott, Crozier, Hetherington and Wadsworth even when disagreeing with its politics, I think the present-day paper is an utter disaster and a disgrace to liberalism.

The only meaningful divide in politics today is between authoritarians [whatever party labels they wear] and those of us who still think that government should be the servant of the people and not their master.

Trouble is, not many under 50 remember when that was the received wisdom, and goodness knows what the youngsters of today think - or if they know any history at all. They seem prepared [conditioned? } to tolerate what us older folk would regard as insufferable intrusions into our privacy and freedom by the lackeys of the State.

Merkin said...

'The only meaningful divide in politics today is between authoritarians [whatever party labels they wear] and those of us who still think that government should be the servant of the people and not their master.'

Wonderfully put.

zola a social thing said...

You are Right Anticant.
Merkin you are our official watchdog.

However the majority of folk still need the Left to actually do anything constructive.

anticant said...

I wish it would. I fear the Left was screwed by Bliar and has vanished up its own fundament babbling nonsense.

I know you don't think much of your old college mate [or whatever] Furedi, but he has made one of the few intelligent analyses of the current situation in his book "The Politics of Fear: Beyond Left and Right".

You see, your ancient Anti is old enough to remember being a child in the Munich years. As long ago as the 1980s, a radical lesbian German Jewish friend who had escaped from Berlin by the skin of her teeth in the early 1930s said to me "This country is beginning to smell like Weimar".

What really bothers me is that kids now growing up know nothing but the Blair/Brown ZanuLabour dispensation, and have no sense of history. Makes me thankful, sometimes, that I won't be around much longer....

Anyway, I'm off to the Aegean at the end of the month. Mamma Mia, here I come!

zola a social thing said...

Well Anticant when you travel to the Aegean ( lucky sod) take with you a book or some stuff about Geoffrey Winthrop Young.

That will keep you clear of the fake guy Furedi.

Good bit of history too.

anticant said...

The mountaineer or the American academic? Both look a bit heavy for holiday reading!

Anyway, I'm going to visit my friend John Gill [whose Cultural History of Andalucia has just been published], and as we haven't seen each other for over ten years there'll be plenty to talk about and probably not much time for reading!

Merkin said...

Furedi is one of the most neocon of the neocons.
Garlic to a vampire sayeth I

zola a social thing said...

Thank god for that.
Buffey returns to aid my wilting wit.

anticant said...

Don't be so silly! Nothing "neocon" about him - unless you are using the word in a purely Humpty Dumptyish way.

What Furedi is describing [rather than even arguing against] is the past decade's lurch into the subservient, managed society.

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